The Culling Dev's Delusional Response To Pay-Per-Match Monetization Backlash

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  • Julkaistu 19.05.2020
  • SOURCE 1: Xaviant/status/1260997589262008321
    SOURCE 2: www.pcgamer.com/the-culling-is-keeping-its-pay-to-play-system-but-xaviant-regrets-how-it-was-announced/
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  • YongYea
    YongYea  17 päivää sitten +2167

    Xaviant's Josh Van Veld actually thinks his mistake was how they announced pay-per-match rather than the pay-per-match monetization itself. What reality does this guy live in?
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    • John Johnson
      John Johnson 12 päivää sitten

      Just being silly but... Probably that reality from Rick and Morty with all the butts...

    • David Garvin
      David Garvin 14 päivää sitten +1

      Yong, have you read ubisoft's new terms of service going into effect August 12? If not you need to look into it and PLEASE do a video over it. Basically, and I pray I am misinterpreting but if you stream/upload any video containing ubisoft property, they own it forever. That's nuts but IT GETS SO MUCH WORSE, if you feature your image in that video, ubisoft OWNS YOUR LIKENESS FOREVER and what's crazier if you feature a friend or fan they also own that persons likeness. If a fan didnt want their image used and Sue's ubisoft, then YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PENALTIES INCURRED. Please look into this and do a video over it, we need to stop this now, we need to raise awareness and raise our pitchforks be ause if this gets through, it will become the norm, thanks man.

    • Guy Called Book
      Guy Called Book 15 päivää sitten

      Xaviant is the DSP of game developers

    • Viktor Gabriel
      Viktor Gabriel 15 päivää sitten

      so they are doing the same thing as Magic the Gathering do and people are ok whit that for some reason

    • Ivan Kleshchevnikov
      Ivan Kleshchevnikov 15 päivää sitten

      Maan, could ypu speak about the outraging pay to win system in AGE OF Z? and other games of the same studio? Those bastards really allow people willing to stay at top by paying for their packs destroy, insult and do whatever the fuck they want with no concern for the hate they generate and how they belittle other players, please expose them..

  • Irru27
    Irru27 17 tuntia sitten

    This is just to get some attention and clearly it’s worked at least 30k+ people have seen it lol

  • Aaron De Guzman
    Aaron De Guzman 2 päivää sitten

    They've heard the culling its culling them back to their graves

  • sharuken64
    sharuken64 3 päivää sitten

    To these people not market test something before releasing this.

  • Jack Reaver
    Jack Reaver 3 päivää sitten

    I think the biggest question this guy needs to answer is; "Have you ever played a online game before?"
    Then he needs to ask himself what he offers that the other guy doesn't.
    Then he needs to compare his monetization plan to what the other guy's is.
    We'll go super simple.
    Culling 3 has been shown by this guy's confidence to be not good. We don't need to see gameplay, this guy has so little confidence in his product we know it's not good.
    Any other game out there is offering pretty decently made gameplay be it around gunplay, movement, and/or teamwork.
    Culling 3 charges you to get the game, charges you to play, charges you for season pass, and from the sounds of it charges you for cosmetics.
    Most Battle Royals let alone games stop at cosmetics and season pass.
    What he's offering we get the image of being very low quality, why pay more for less?
    ALSO, Steam's decrepit pile of crap Artifact. Monetization like this has already been attempted and failed pretty badly.

  • Dave L
    Dave L 3 päivää sitten

    i bet this is a money laundering scheme. fill the game with bots and pretend they all payed

  • Joe Savero
    Joe Savero 3 päivää sitten

    I pay a decent amount of money playing Path of Exile usually every 3 months when there is a new league i'll be maybe 100$ supporter pack, but it's because i want to and i'm enjoying the game and have close to 8k hours in the game over years . That game deserves the money it gets....definitely not the culling.

  • Joe Savero
    Joe Savero 3 päivää sitten

    so let me get this straight a dev who has proven to be incompetent in running a live game, expects people to pay per match.....sure sounds like a sound investment to do with my hobby for fun when they ruined the amazing thing that the ORIGINAL game was. If they just added more content instead of doing all the bullshit patches they did years ago the game i would bet would have been still going now.
    The people working there should pack their desks up now and move on, this ain't it cheif.

  • Hibbi
    Hibbi 3 päivää sitten

    he will grab some cash from people not knowing any better, but why does xbox allow that tragedy to be on theire systems? say what you want, but its xbox approved - one thing is beeing crazy, another is providing a arena for it

  • Nock
    Nock 3 päivää sitten

    i get why this is stupid but the 30 day pass is still cheaper per month than a battle pass isnt it? on average?? it kinda makes sense, base game shhould be free and if you wanna play a few games yoou pay $1 and if yoou're hardcore everyday you pay less than other brs? its actually not that insane

  • Arif SelectSelect
    Arif SelectSelect 4 päivää sitten

    "we onboarded a million new players very quickly"
    *has only 12k peek of all time.. with the rest around 2 - 5000*
    x to doubt

  • MadDoofer
    MadDoofer 4 päivää sitten

    I got an idea for Google
    Charge people per view per video!!!
    First it'll cost you 1 dollar
    Then we'll "listen" to feedback and make it cost 25 Cents
    Final Step - Profit

  • Djsquishy
    Djsquishy 4 päivää sitten

    1:07 Why is enchantment table trending in the United States?

  • Thomas Pritchett
    Thomas Pritchett 5 päivää sitten

    Ohh no did I say that I wanted you to pay us to harvest all your organs? So embarrassing, I meant to say I you should pay us harvest some of your organs... silly me, I was just so worried that people would flood the hospital and we’d run out of doctor to relieve them of all those organs. I sincerely apologize.

    • miko foin
      miko foin 4 päivää sitten

      this man is not in it for the love of their game. they just want money... i know plenty of indie developer's who's games had little to no budget and they excelled past everyone's

  • Detergent Tester
    Detergent Tester 5 päivää sitten

    15:08 did that guy not here about fortnite or apex??

  • ElHiars
    ElHiars 5 päivää sitten +1

    I think they might have looked at like MvM in tf2 but seem to have forgotten that tf2 is an actual extremely fun and versatile game even without MvM, which also has a free option.
    Edit:
    Ah yes and tf2 is free.

  • bocoy noiu
    bocoy noiu 5 päivää sitten

    wait, how's the first match free when you have to pay for the game in the first place?

    • misolou fout
      misolou fout 5 päivää sitten

      Period? U joking right? No finished product, pay to win, microtransaction.. This is a success due to the players I cant believe how low we got Most of the games are pay to win

  • Kagaya Ureumono
    Kagaya Ureumono 6 päivää sitten

    what a brilliant way of culling traffic as well as your entire fanbase. "2 steps forward, walks off the cliff" strategy.

    • bocoy noiu
      bocoy noiu 5 päivää sitten

      E.A is gonna do this just saying big oof

  • DemonTeddy bear
    DemonTeddy bear 6 päivää sitten

    Sounds like he is a rogue underwear Gnome.
    Microtransactions in a game
    ????
    Profit

    • misolou fout
      misolou fout 5 päivää sitten

      E.A is gonna do this just saying big oof

  • ghostrath
    ghostrath 6 päivää sitten

    This guy legit believed he was going to make to much money , that ppl would line up to give him more! Can we prevent this gentleman from having children, i feel we are regressing in the gene pool.

  • Axlxandru
    Axlxandru 6 päivää sitten

    It is not a game... it is an experiment they are trying to see how much they can "milk" their audience before it cracks...

  • DankPooper aka Klein
    DankPooper aka Klein 7 päivää sitten

    EA / Bethesda / ActiBlizzard / 2K seeing this:
    *WRITE DOWN RIGHT NOW!*

    • nieooj gotoy
      nieooj gotoy 6 päivää sitten

      Why does it matter? just don't purchase the game. I won't.

  • Samwise
    Samwise 7 päivää sitten

    Bellular is watching this coming up with ideas for his sMAlL InDIe gAMe

    • bodoti qwiu
      bodoti qwiu 7 päivää sitten

      2062 = Gaming ammo now costs more than real bullets

  • raahkaa
    raahkaa 7 päivää sitten

    "She`s gone from suck to blow!" - Space Balls

  • Matt Wong
    Matt Wong 7 päivää sitten

    When it comes to making profit from monetization, the dev should have done what COD is doing with the battle pass. What I like about MW's battle pass is that if you grind it enough to earn 1000 COD points, you can get the next battle pass without paying real money

    • bodoti qwiu
      bodoti qwiu 7 päivää sitten

      Can we just NOT buy the game? Case solved. Instead of complaining about it. When the sales reflect no support, the company will learn.

  • EpicGamer 69
    EpicGamer 69 7 päivää sitten

    It's hard to make a game for free
    Apex,warzone,fornite 1:Am I a joke to u

  • Zorminy BonBon
    Zorminy BonBon 7 päivää sitten

    Culling dev and yandev is your perfect recipe for a disastorous, spaghetti coded shit of a game with delusional devs with a history drama more detailed then any human research

  • kolim jone
    kolim jone 7 päivää sitten

    Doubling down on the thing that's pushing people away. Sounds like Hollywood.

  • Travis Albright
    Travis Albright 7 päivää sitten

    I fucking hate micro transactions (who doesn’t?), *especially* when they are paywalls you even play the game. The only time I am comfortable or even willing to spend more money on a game is when it is a permanent purchase of content, not currency, and it’s not a paywall, but just enhances my game experience. When I saw that dark souls 3 had a dlc, I was on the edge of my seat typing in my payment information as fast as I could. no other game has done that for me.

    • kolim jone
      kolim jone 7 päivää sitten

      You will have regrets Josh, plenty of them.

  • misolou fout
    misolou fout 8 päivää sitten

    This situation is like instead of taking your sick pet to the vet, you shoot it in the head at point blank range with a shotgun

    • misolou fout
      misolou fout 8 päivää sitten

      So what he's basically saying is that they developed the game with the hope that it would suck...?

  • Lizzy Koopa
    Lizzy Koopa 8 päivää sitten

    this man is not in it for the love of their game.
    they just want money... i know plenty of indie developer's who's games had little to no budget and they excelled past everyone's expectations...
    put your boots on the fucking ground and work for your reward...it's all the fans who even remained wanted and asked... holy shit.

  • Brai The Kai killer
    Brai The Kai killer 8 päivää sitten

    He looks insane

  • Karis AsaNi
    Karis AsaNi 8 päivää sitten

    How low will companies dig until they finally reach the most scummy form of monetization for games

  • Dashing star Light
    Dashing star Light 8 päivää sitten

    E.A is gonna do this just saying big oof

  • Retard Stupid
    Retard Stupid 8 päivää sitten

    Period? U joking right?
    No finished product, pay to win, microtransaction..
    This is a success due to the players
    I cant believe how low we got
    Most of the games are pay to win

  • Combat Boots
    Combat Boots 8 päivää sitten

    The culling released with pay per match. Literally 0.02% of people liked that.

  • Owen Ploof
    Owen Ploof 8 päivää sitten

    They have really fucked up with this IP at every single goddamn turn.

  • abbsnn cose
    abbsnn cose 8 päivää sitten

    be.

  • gentlemann
    gentlemann 8 päivää sitten

    Why does it matter? just don't purchase the game. I won't.

    • abbsnn cose
      abbsnn cose 8 päivää sitten

      JVV looks like Johnny Knoxville had a stroke and both sides of his face went into permanent sad face.

  • gentlemann
    gentlemann 8 päivää sitten

    Can we just NOT buy the game? Case solved. Instead of complaining about it. When the sales reflect no support, the company will learn.

  • ben cook
    ben cook 9 päivää sitten

    2062 =
    Gaming ammo now costs more than real bullets

  • ben cook
    ben cook 9 päivää sitten

    Imagine killing someone in the game and then thinking "I just cost that person money"......that just doesn't sit right with me

  • dolimi jotoo
    dolimi jotoo 9 päivää sitten

    Doubling down on the thing that's pushing people away. Sounds like Hollywood.

    • dolimi jotoo
      dolimi jotoo 9 päivää sitten

      also didn't start shrinking the arena till 10 minutes remained, though since that meant that people would just hide, they had a man tracker, which gives the direction and dista

  • Downsider
    Downsider 9 päivää sitten

    This is the complete opposite of LawBreakers where Cliffy was hyping it up to be a new billion-dollar franchise. This Van Veld dude is like "This is our hundred-dollar franchise"

  • Mad PhantomPixels
    Mad PhantomPixels 9 päivää sitten

    You will have regrets Josh, plenty of them.

  • Ron
    Ron 9 päivää sitten

    Just checked current players now, theres only 4 lol

  • William Mbongolwane
    William Mbongolwane 9 päivää sitten

    So what he's basically saying is that they developed the game with the hope that it would suck...?

  • DarkAngel
    DarkAngel 9 päivää sitten

    You are so annoying stop showing in my recommended videos .............

  • oiuet souiu
    oiuet souiu 9 päivää sitten

    "Admirable idea but poor execution, we can use this." - EA and Activision-Blizzard

  • PatrickITA
    PatrickITA 9 päivää sitten

    4:47 It's not how many tokens are a fair amount, this system is unacceptable! What we'll see next? Instead of "Win an offline match to win a free token" we're gonna see "watch this ads to win a free token".... OH SHOOT! Hope that EA and Bethesda will never read this comment!

    • oiuet souiu
      oiuet souiu 9 päivää sitten

      Corporate people are so engulfed with how to get the most money out of players they forget the main reason why players play a game. They also think players are dumb and

  • Last following
    Last following 9 päivää sitten

    This is most likely how Star Wars battlefront 3 will work

  • MysteryBounty
    MysteryBounty 10 päivää sitten

    The beginning reminded me of its always sunny..."You've lost your godson mind Charlie...You've lost your godson mind!"

  • ssspike1
    ssspike1 10 päivää sitten

    It's even stupider that all accounts reset

  • antidote lizard
    antidote lizard 10 päivää sitten

    wait putting the milking device right in the utters of the cow gets you bucked? what a shock

  • Matthew Fifer
    Matthew Fifer 10 päivää sitten

    JVV looks like Johnny Knoxville had a stroke and both sides of his face went into permanent sad face.

  • VerdeMorte
    VerdeMorte 10 päivää sitten

    "Backed by a big Publisher?"
    You mean like Evolve was?

  • Risui Z.
    Risui Z. 10 päivää sitten

    At this point they'll be better off maintaining a private server, a single one. And monetizing as much as they can, because all this bad press won't go away, and it's not gonna fill more than a server with mindless whales.

  • reptilian huntress
    reptilian huntress 10 päivää sitten

    Xaviant looks like an ork just saying

    • reptilian huntress
      reptilian huntress 10 päivää sitten

      Another thing as well that I'm cosidering is that this isnt just a problem of server costs being to high. There is probebly other issues in the background that is taking thier money something like curruption within the company or even people not being paid decently. Have no clue but it is something to think about.

  • erfan ashkan
    erfan ashkan 10 päivää sitten

    hear my warning. this is gonna be the future. now that this idea is out of the bag, i bet activision and EA are gonna use it. they are just gonna wait,and like josh said express it with a better PR and people are gradually gonna accept it.

  • LolImNight
    LolImNight 10 päivää sitten

    “But improving upon garbage doesn’t make it not garbage, it just makes it not garbage garbage.” -YongYea 2020

    • Mouse cop
      Mouse cop 10 päivää sitten +1

      "-But it's still garbage."

  • Ethan Edwards
    Ethan Edwards 10 päivää sitten

    I thought Bubsy would of made people learn not to tempt fate in the memeverse. Guess I was wrong. And keep in mind, I PLAYED THE CULLING DURING THE FIRST REVIVAL. So I'm kinda pissed! I genuinely enjoyed the game. I thought it was a good battle royale, and it had a lot of potential and new ideas, namely, the focus on melee combat rather than guns. There were ranged weapons, but they were either a crossbow that only holds one bolt at a time and reloads slowly, or a revolver that can hold 6 bullets and reloads quickly, but can't be crafted, and if an enemy managed to land a melee hit on you while you had a ranged weapon out, they'd disarm you, forcing you to drop the weapon. They also didn't start shrinking the arena till 10 minutes remained, though since that meant that people would just hide, they had a man tracker, which gives the direction and distance to the closest enemy without the inhuman perk (makes you immune to tracking devices). Also, falling damage, while painful and could slow you down for a moment, was not fatal, and if it would kill you, you'd be left with 1 health.

  • Shannon Curry
    Shannon Curry 10 päivää sitten

    This game is dead on arrival

  • Jojoltaik
    Jojoltaik 10 päivää sitten

    tf is the culling

  • three times
    three times 10 päivää sitten

    This reminds me of this scene from Dragonball, where Goku etc spent their time in a hotel (was it a hotel?) and it was expensive af like having a sort of a count on how long you lie in the bed

  • three times
    three times 10 päivää sitten

    With all the current BR games out there, which are mostly free to play and in which you only have to spend money for skins, how the hell does this guy/company think they will have success with a stinky slimy strategy like this? This is just ridiculous

  • eioshen boboi
    eioshen boboi 10 päivää sitten

    Doubling down on the thing that's pushing people away. Sounds like Hollywood.

    • eioshen boboi
      eioshen boboi 10 päivää sitten

      Its such a shame that they've done this, the game used to be good.

  • Gary Gregorio
    Gary Gregorio 10 päivää sitten

    Corporate people are so engulfed with how to get the most money out of players they forget the main reason why players play a game. They also think players are dumb and stupid.

  • Dragon Den Studios
    Dragon Den Studios 10 päivää sitten

    i love the fact all of these are about the "free to play players" and not even touching on the fact of the people who did the whole Early Access "Pay to Own" model when it had a price tag of $30-is or around that point. it's fucking hilarious, tho i'm so fucking sad I actually paid that price tag, I was so mad when I had paid money to own the game early on, and then it became free to play. this is even worse now

  • Paul Miller
    Paul Miller 10 päivää sitten

    I just noticed... their response had 600 likes and 30k dislikes.... and this video about the response has 30k likes and 600 dislikes... so ... I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but it made me chuckle.

  • Tsouki
    Tsouki 10 päivää sitten

    Hurray, capitalism

  • KiongSS
    KiongSS 10 päivää sitten

    Well you cant overload a server if you dont have any players

  • Ozymandias
    Ozymandias 10 päivää sitten

    I thought scheme and scam were different

  • Rai Rai
    Rai Rai 11 päivää sitten

    That game was shit, came back up as shit and will be shit. There's not even a space where anyone should "think about it".

  • Sorry, this name is restricted.
    Sorry, this name is restricted. 11 päivää sitten

    Still better than any other battle royale on the market. That's the real tragedy here.

  • Ancient Of Days
    Ancient Of Days 11 päivää sitten

    THE REAL CULPRITS ARE THE SHARE HOLDERS...THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SHARE HOLDERS BOARD MEMBERS, THESE IDIOTS DON'T EVEN PLAY THE GAME...THEY JUST FEED OFF THE IPO OFFERED THEM TO INVEST...!

  • Zed Fury
    Zed Fury 11 päivää sitten

    Has there ever been a successful game with a pay per match model? I can't imagine even the most popular of games pulling this off.

  • afutla qian
    afutla qian 11 päivää sitten

    thousands per month.

  • Tazwar Choudhury
    Tazwar Choudhury 11 päivää sitten

    The audio at 12:48 is a bit jarring from 12:38

    • afutla qian
      afutla qian 11 päivää sitten

      Look at all that garbage in the background

  • Ultimate Outcast
    Ultimate Outcast 11 päivää sitten

    Really sick and tired of how game developers use really scummy tactics but this one just doesn’t give a fuck.
    As Yong said “therein lies the problem” The point of creating a video game is the intention of creating something so that players will keep playing it but apparently this game developer just is so much in denial that he just wants the game to crash and burn he doesn’t want to fix anything he doesn’t wanna make it better he doesn’t want a new engine he doesn’t want anything.
    At least Bethesda are honest about them being in denial. But this “dev” takes the whole pie.

  • 5Dollar Wenis
    5Dollar Wenis 11 päivää sitten

    “You won’t last one match in this game.”

  • GCRIS
    GCRIS 11 päivää sitten

    disgusting

  • Trey Davis
    Trey Davis 11 päivää sitten

    Congratulations instead of 2 week old rotten garbage it is now 10 day old rotten garbage.

  • fatnonkers
    fatnonkers 11 päivää sitten

    Its such a shame that they've done this, the game used to be good.

  • DC4Life BilCaesar
    DC4Life BilCaesar 12 päivää sitten

    Is it me or does JVV look like the type of guy that you wouldn’t leave alone with your kids??

  • TheSaxRunner05
    TheSaxRunner05 12 päivää sitten

    He has 600 likes and 30,000 dislikes, this video now has 30,000 likes and 600 dislikes 😂

    • bodoti qwiu
      bodoti qwiu 11 päivää sitten

      This is the most I have ever seen YongYea been just like WTF

  • justin mccann
    justin mccann 12 päivää sitten

    They ended up giving 25 free games per day which only the grindiest players will even get through. Meanwhile you stack tokens for wins. I have paid nothing and as of this post I would have to lose over 80 matches in a row all in one day before im forced to pay for even a single token. It seems like a greedy cash grab but the reality is they will make no money because they even managed to screw up their cash grab.

    • bodoti qwiu
      bodoti qwiu 11 päivää sitten

      wait, wait, wait, they want to keep lobbies full... with one game per day per player....

  • Joshua Tay
    Joshua Tay 12 päivää sitten

    I'm so tired of seeing companies do this to our games I hope one day that companies will learn to be consumer friendly like cd project red valuing quality and making the actual damn game

  • Brickster 000
    Brickster 000 12 päivää sitten

    Yong is just jealous that he can't make a great monetization strategy such as this one. I mean, this will be remembered throughout history.

  • mastertracuer
    mastertracuer 12 päivää sitten

    Who the hell is liking that initial video?!? I'd say his staff and friends but I doubt he has that many 😂😂

  • Rain
    Rain 12 päivää sitten

    Do you want people to cheat in your game? Cuz this is how you get cheaters in your game.

  • Cole Fox
    Cole Fox 12 päivää sitten

    It's called capitalism, dummy

  • lucid
    lucid 12 päivää sitten

    lol...
    "it's so cringe-worthy...seeing this guy - just delusionally jerking himself off while everyone stares at him in embarrassment and pity and disgust"
    damn

  • fireboy1126
    fireboy1126 12 päivää sitten

    those millions just signed up and probably quit within an hour of downloading the game. or just bots..large playerbase consisting of 99% dead accounts..lol

  • 1DANIELTUBE
    1DANIELTUBE 12 päivää sitten

    Look at all that garbage in the background

  • The Butcher
    The Butcher 12 päivää sitten

    Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He thought his problem was going to be TOO MANY players? Big brain right there.

  • Isaiah Bradford III
    Isaiah Bradford III 12 päivää sitten

    I think this is the most pissed off and shocked I've ever heard YongYea.

  • WELLbethere
    WELLbethere 12 päivää sitten

    He thinks the problem was that he didn't have a good enough scheme to squeeze as much money as possible from people playing his game, even now with people being outraged, all he thinks is, "they are complaining because they are would-be money-spenders, but I don't have the means and knowhow right now to take all their money." This man is not a fucking human being. He sees people purely as objects of monetary opportunity.

  • Daniel Brooker
    Daniel Brooker 12 päivää sitten

    I can't wait for this game to launch!


    Just so I can watch it burn 🤣

  • Ja
    Ja 12 päivää sitten

    I don't get what everybody is so mad about. What this payment model bears down to is a subscription fee with few extra options. It's not new and it's not this abhorrent thing you all make it out to be. I don't get all this anger. I understand that everyone is causious about new payment systems, cuz they don't want for it to become new microtransactions, but this reaction is abysmal and I'm very confused watching it all play out

  • Tushnim Gangopadhyay
    Tushnim Gangopadhyay 12 päivää sitten

    Is Bethesda paying these guys so we have someone else to hate on this year?