YouTube's Copyright System Isn't Broken. The World's Is.

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Kommentteja • 80

  • Tom Scott
    Tom Scott  14 päivää sitten +11273

    Yep, 42 minutes of video. This was a big project. Plus: I've got an all-new five-part original series called Money over on Nebula, which you can watch as a bundle with CuriosityStream! curiositystream.com/tomscott

    • Ray Bromano
      Ray Bromano 6 tuntia sitten

      Seems like 42 minutes of encouraging greedy lawyers to sue more for frivolous technicalities because "they could get away with it".

    • Amine Z.
      Amine Z. 13 tuntia sitten

      Tom Scott can you make a Video about Secure passwords in 256 bit and so on and the difference to random generated one

    • Obsidian 999
      Obsidian 999 Päivä sitten

      Is there a "bundle" deals interface where FIchannelrs and so on to establish more of an ease of use development kit such that platforms act like an in-between?

    • N4w4k
      N4w4k Päivä sitten

      The design of those street furniture and buildings may be protected by copyrights, did you get a license to show them in your commercial video?

    • Nodus Technologies
      Nodus Technologies Päivä sitten

      you could have taken a couple of minutes more and made it one take ;-)

  • death100ify
    death100ify 33 minuuttia sitten

    They copy right system is broken

  • Jim M
    Jim M 41 minuutti sitten

    Hear, hear!

  • GetmeoutofSanFrancisco
    GetmeoutofSanFrancisco 41 minuutti sitten

    Ooooh. I think 20 years seems a bit short, to put it lightly. I was thinking something like until death with a stipulation of no less 50 years from publication (eg. Jimmy Hendrix dies at 27 but published a song a day before, that song has 49 years 364 days left)
    20 years..... To young people, that seems like an eternity but 20 years is really not that long. I could actually maybe get behind 50 years flat from publication regardless of death.

  • McCoy the Boy
    McCoy the Boy 50 minuuttia sitten

    when copy right lasts forever:
    Creedence Clearwater Revival decendents: "I'm a fortunate one"

  • GetmeoutofSanFrancisco
    GetmeoutofSanFrancisco 53 minuuttia sitten

    Finally someone telling reality how it is, for one. Reality is hard to find, on FIchannel.
    Haha I love the Fact/Opinion switch. I wish more people treated content as such.

  • ProfaneGrue
    ProfaneGrue 53 minuuttia sitten

    Arguing shortening copyright law is the answer is like arguing magical unicorns that grant eternal life will fix the NHS. It's never ever going to happen and everyone knows it. However, it IS in the realm of possibilities that mega corporations clamp down the internet in the next ten years, and arguing in bad faith while presenting a entirely too sympathetic argument to their cause is the kind of action that will hasten it.

  • Brian C-137
    Brian C-137 Tunti sitten

    I think you have touched on some of the problems with the copyright system in general.

  • KitMellow
    KitMellow Tunti sitten

    Some authors may feel differently, but in this digital age of information, I believe fair-use under good-faith and crediting should be a given (within reason). Especially in smaller, or individual fan-made content that does not make any money, or only partially use the content with transformative elements built off of it. In turn, it always gives the original author(s) or source(s) free advertisement.
    Always remember that every single thing in this world is derivative and iterative; we're all inspired and built-off of each others' work. Nothing is actually completely original, and everything about who we are as a society, our interests/hobbies/careers would not exist without some leniency in Copyright.
    As long as geniune effort, personality, and/or time has been put into making something, and you're not directly competeing against the source material, that should be categorized as in good-faith or transformative. These are the values I grew up with anyway. And in turn, I also allow my own work to be used in this right, given the circumstances of how our society has evolved.

  • Gord Slater
    Gord Slater Tunti sitten +1

    19:11 ####### WE GOT MOVIE SIGN !!!!!! #########

  • Mao
    Mao Tunti sitten

    in a perfect world, we wouldn't have to monetize everything that makes us happy
    we're only moving farther and farther from that perfect world

  • Kovaelin
    Kovaelin Tunti sitten

    Hello legal eagles... wait...

  • Haris Serdarevic
    Haris Serdarevic Tunti sitten

    bootlicker

  • DerProGamer2000
    DerProGamer2000 Tunti sitten

    FIchannel will probably take extra time in watching this video so that they can find eveything that they can copyright claim xD

  • ObiWan PEZ
    ObiWan PEZ 2 tuntia sitten

    27:20 - "...one of the biggest advertising companies..." Ad butts in.

  • ObiWan PEZ
    ObiWan PEZ 2 tuntia sitten

    ZOX did Canon in D with electric violin. Good cover.

  • Jonathan Irvin
    Jonathan Irvin 2 tuntia sitten

    You make some of the most cogent and interesting content on FIchannel! Thank you! This video is brilliant.

  • Daryl Nicklen
    Daryl Nicklen 2 tuntia sitten

    That's a lot work and research Thanks for making this important Vid

  • carl wheezer
    carl wheezer 2 tuntia sitten

    34:33
    noone can draw horses because grug's ancestors sue everyone who does it

  • Nikki Rainford
    Nikki Rainford 2 tuntia sitten

    If we'd like Disney to stop screwing up the copyright laws for everybody, I think it would help if there was a system in place for corporate entities to apply to extend copyright on an IP after the original creator's passing. After review, that extension is either approved or denied based on the "value" that current IP has. Mickey Mouse would be saved (since he's the corporate mascot and thus has a substantial amount of value to a massive company), smaller independent creators would have their works enter the Public Domain earlier, and older works that no longer have any significant historical or commercial value for the company that holds that copyright could simply be released once their original copyright expires.

    The issue then is that we might see organizations like "Shakespeare Intellectual Property Ltd." actually come into existence just to milk some works that were once significant pieces of pop culture for forever. That might suck a lot, so there'd probably need to be rules and limitations in place to prevent historical works having their copyrights abused forever.

  • Jan Brož
    Jan Brož 3 tuntia sitten

    It is Gif with Hard G

  • Cristian Pop
    Cristian Pop 3 tuntia sitten

    The hard question is: "did you pay the licensing fee for displaying the handwriting under each of the cameras on the wall" :)

  • Thedoctor133
    Thedoctor133 3 tuntia sitten

    I see copyright getting extended hear in a few years, Disney died in the 60s and his company doesnt want to let the mouse into the public domain. I agree on all point though.

  • Radio Pod
    Radio Pod 4 tuntia sitten

    Yep, shorten how long copyright lasts so that a TV company in Thailand can use a Tom Scott video without legal action by Tom Scott 🤭

  • Platypi007
    Platypi007 4 tuntia sitten

    Life plus 70 is a *ridiculous* copyright term. If copyright is to protect creators there is NO REASON it should last after a person's death. You say 50 years from creation. I don't really care if it's the life of the creator, honestly, but beyond that? Nope. I have long hated how our copyright system works.

  • Paŭlo Ebermann
    Paŭlo Ebermann 4 tuntia sitten

    13:40 I'm wondering more how the three persons on that photo feel, not how much the photographer feels.

  • Ransika Warnakulasuriya
    Ransika Warnakulasuriya 4 tuntia sitten

    "Nerdy underbelly of the inernet"...... oof that hit too hard

  • Timo J
    Timo J 4 tuntia sitten

    So, if i am a guy from germany, how does international law work? Surely DMCA has no jurisdiction over me? Whose law counts? My jurisdiction, or the copyright holders?

  • Taipan17 SAG
    Taipan17 SAG 4 tuntia sitten

    I genuinely agree with this.
    Reaction channel sholud be just for fun and not for earning revenue, just as a hobby.

  • Illuminati
    Illuminati 4 tuntia sitten

    5:20 wow rude. What you trying to say about NZ. I've never even heard that song

  • jackalantorn
    jackalantorn 4 tuntia sitten +1

    You have the voice of a flash




    To Fast

  • Xander Lander
    Xander Lander 5 tuntia sitten

    And The World Is*

  • Bjørn Aslak Dallmann
    Bjørn Aslak Dallmann 5 tuntia sitten

    GMO/DNA laws and copyrights are worse

  • Handinmapocket
    Handinmapocket 5 tuntia sitten

    11:59 Because he's a vampire and will outlast us mere mortals, he's just playing around with us for fun.

  • Handinmapocket
    Handinmapocket 5 tuntia sitten

    9:09 What happens in the case of video's using a cover of a populair song? It seems to often be used in video productions with a lower budget for music. But wouldn't it be more expensive because you should in theory be paying the music writer, original preformer and cover artist for the license right? Or does the cover already cover the fees for the original artist and/or writer and the vide production company only has to pay a smaller licence fee to the cover artist. (Seems like a cover wouldn't be "worth" as much as using hte original right?)

  • Anthenor Jr
    Anthenor Jr 5 tuntia sitten

    How dare you

  • Eli on the Internet
    Eli on the Internet 5 tuntia sitten

    I’m surprised the phrase “botch job” didn’t come up 😂

  • Eugene InLaw
    Eugene InLaw 6 tuntia sitten +1

    bad laws exist, and must be corrected. the rule of law is fundamentally flawed in this precise way

  • Daniel G
    Daniel G 6 tuntia sitten

    Ah jay foreman, how I miss your videos.

  • Ramel
    Ramel 6 tuntia sitten

    Honestly? I think 50 years is still insanely long, The idea that people should be recieving decades of income from a few days, or weeks of work seems flatly ridiculous to this wage slave.

  • Jokey Carrot
    Jokey Carrot 7 tuntia sitten

    2:59 me when my mum shouts my full name

  • TemplarOnHigh
    TemplarOnHigh 7 tuntia sitten

    Terrific video Tom.

    I want to point out that software is also subject to this insane copyright fiasco. With hardware limitations being what they are as we cannot emulate exactly what this or that console could do, the great library of historically significant software (especially for obscure platforms) is slowly burning or being preserved by reverse engineering in some "semi-legal" state.

  • JMLawson80
    JMLawson80 7 tuntia sitten

    My Jr. High and High School years are history? Ouch. Get back to me when you are your mid 60s and tell me if you still think that.

  • Legendinis Žaidėjas
    Legendinis Žaidėjas 7 tuntia sitten

    how did this video feel so short

  • Cody Nemo
    Cody Nemo 7 tuntia sitten

    The different baseline young people have is why we need copyright law reform.
    Old men in suits making profit are not what the world needs

  • Cody Nemo
    Cody Nemo 7 tuntia sitten

    The solution to this is ironically enough provided by Andras Arato's hone country: Hungary.
    People pay a general copyright tax on all data storage and transmission media and in return illegal copying is not a legally recognized thing unless it is done for profit and leads to more than a couple thousand dollars in damages.
    FIchannel can still kick me off, but i can legally take any content and copy it for myself and my friends and even distribute it, and unless they can prove that it directly cost them revenue i'm legally in the right.
    The entire EU fair use policy was also explicitly designed to allow profiting from copied content if it is transformative at all and applies the double standard between small creators and big companies really well.
    Tell me were you not among the people who protested the new strengthening of the copyright law because it would end memes and link embedding?
    Anyone who thinks that individual creators bottom line is above the cultural progress of mankind as you expressed at some points in the video is literal scum of the earth.

  • ragmondead
    ragmondead 7 tuntia sitten

    Lawyer here, this is almost all accurate, with the one exception that a company has to protect its copyright. A company cannot simple allow its copyright to go out into the greater world, see mass use, and then arbitrarily decide, 'ok now I am going to sue everyone.'
    No you have to actually treat the thing as a copy right. So to sue for a meme, the company would have to sue upon learning that their image is now a meme and not years later.
    So you are allowed to use the image, not because of fair use, but because the copy right will have likely lapsed. 1

  • M M
    M M 7 tuntia sitten

    Short story: Blame Universal Music Group for destroying FIchannel.

  • Zyliara ASMR
    Zyliara ASMR 8 tuntia sitten

    Thank you.

  • Manatee Man
    Manatee Man 8 tuntia sitten

    This is all good information, and quite useful.
    Edit: hey! D. James Stone cameo

  • Cody Nemo
    Cody Nemo 8 tuntia sitten

    "You shouldn't do it because were not in startrek"
    But as you yourself admit that is how society progresses.
    Lets get a bit more down and dirty.... VCR recordings. You have no license to record the movies from telly or make a mixtape from the radio yet there was an entire industry around that stuff and literally everyone who could did it.
    At what point is your hypercapitalist idealist thinking just actively a detriment to mankind?

  • Derben Leyla
    Derben Leyla 8 tuntia sitten

    I would say copyright terms should be until the artist dies or a set minimum amount of years if they die young (80 for example). I can agree that death + 70 is too much but I don't see why an artist should lose their copyrights during their lifetime.

  • imicca
    imicca 8 tuntia sitten

    thanks for a great video Tom.

  • willyolio
    willyolio 8 tuntia sitten

    It's wishful thinking to believe laws will be changed (in the USA) to help people, instead of money. Voting means nothing when it's legal to buy politicians.

  • I M
    I M 8 tuntia sitten

    5 years copyright i think for all forms of media.

  • Simone
    Simone 8 tuntia sitten

    There is something larger at play here than just economics though. Freedom of information and access is essential to creating a diverse and understanding culture.
    What we are exposed to, growing up(mostly), forms a lot of our biases and opinions. Having a huge selection of sources and material available, cheaply, is essential for a global acceptance and understanding. Promoting curiosity and novelty seeking rather than fear and dogma.

  • StackableGold
    StackableGold 9 tuntia sitten

    Indeed.

  • Farry Entertainment
    Farry Entertainment 9 tuntia sitten +1

    Walt Disney died more than 70 years ago. I want right of Disney.

  • Levi Cochrane
    Levi Cochrane 9 tuntia sitten

    Imagine a Hallmark movie staring The Avengers.

  • Blueis Notgreen
    Blueis Notgreen 9 tuntia sitten

    there is a reason we put the onus in a centralized concentrated place "smart" guy. why dont YOU go fix the world while the rest of us keep complaining to youtube.

  • Torbax
    Torbax 9 tuntia sitten

    So I'm wondering, I do a lot of Photoshop work. Simply said people want something and then I create it, person wants a squirrel rowing in a boat under a raindbow and I'll create it, I will create it from images I take from Google. Isn't that just fair use? EDIT: I do not make any money from this, if that changes the answer in any way.

  • chillcookiedough
    chillcookiedough 9 tuntia sitten

    everybody gangsta till tom doesn't have his red shirt on

  • Herman der German
    Herman der German 10 tuntia sitten

    Demonising a whole video for a snippet of music is not equitable. In case of a copyright claim where the infringing material is 10% of the whole video the amount that should be claimed should be 10% and another half of that again as a penalty. It is well documented that FIchannel was founded on infringement and came to an arrangement with the music corporations to protect its interests and revenue stream throwing the Tubers under a bus.

  • Sheikh Arif
    Sheikh Arif 10 tuntia sitten

    Map men map men map map map men men men

  • Prabhat CCC
    Prabhat CCC 10 tuntia sitten

    So.....if u had an english song....and it was remade into another language or different lyrics....and used in a movie....what would happen under copyright law?

    Im Indian.......and i know a bunch of Bollywood songs which are derived from slightly or much older english songs...

  • Aser
    Aser 10 tuntia sitten

    32:35 why are the lines on the road zig-zag? Is that an indicator of some kind, or did the person doing the lines just botch it?

  • Tyler Ramos
    Tyler Ramos 10 tuntia sitten

    The arguments put forth in this video don’t change the fact that FIchannel’s copyright system is fundamentally broken. When you don’t have any type of mediator to make sure the system isn’t getting abused that is broken.

  • MilesUmbrae
    MilesUmbrae 10 tuntia sitten

    FIchannel Copyright system is not like Duct-tape, it is more like a piece of old chewing gum...

    • Ask to seduce Miss
      Ask to seduce Miss 10 tuntia sitten

      Once content is owned by a large media company it should just be forgotten

  • ButterKing -28
    ButterKing -28 10 tuntia sitten +1

    rip Mumbo Jumbo!

    • Ask to seduce Miss
      Ask to seduce Miss 10 tuntia sitten

      did not expect tom scott sitting on evan edinger's bed or in his gaming chair...

  • Carl
    Carl 10 tuntia sitten +1

    I have conflicting feelings about this and so I'm going to resort to a standardized response:

    -I don't like it, I don't know what I want and you are a stupidhead.

  • cuthalionxvi
    cuthalionxvi 10 tuntia sitten

    I lol'd irl at the literal fact->opinion switch.

  • Some random guy
    Some random guy 11 tuntia sitten

    intellectual property disputes have more to do with money and power than actual discussion and reasoning... thats twisted...

  • Creepy Gaming
    Creepy Gaming 11 tuntia sitten

    This is an amazing informative video!!

  • rajavlitra
    rajavlitra 11 tuntia sitten

    Abolish Intellectual Property and Kill CEOs

  • Rosie Strawberry
    Rosie Strawberry 11 tuntia sitten +1

    So the big question is: was this video copyright striked?

  • Dustin Rodriguez
    Dustin Rodriguez 11 tuntia sitten

    Game videos are a little more complicated than described. They involve performance of the player. If someone streamed the game with the player not actively manipulating the controller or keyboard/mouse.... who would watch? THAT would be just streaming the game. But that's not what anyone ever does. The performance of the players actions is not necessarily 'transformative' or whatnot, I'm not getting into that, but, it is an additional complication that would have to be factored in and balanced in any court review. Then you have the fact that because of the very unwise way game publishers have chosen to conduct their business, the vast majority of streamers don't own their games. They have a license to USE the game. That will complicate things for the publishers if this ever gets to a courtroom. They're not very specific (yet) about limiting or even defining what rights the licensee has or what obligations the publisher has. Given how widespread streaming is, an argument that streaming your performance in the game is implicit in the granted license would, I think, have a good chance of a win. IANAL.

    A change to copyright law that I would personally very much like to see and which I think has proper protections for all involved would be an official legal definition of "canon" versus "fan" works. Only the original creator would be authorized to create any "canon" works, and it would be illegal to label any fan creation as 'official' or otherwise intend to create the impression that it has the blessing of the original creator. But, it would permit fan creations to use the characters, ideas, world, etc of a "canon" work. When a person publishes something, their goal is to enter it into our culture. When a thing becomes part of our culture, we have implicit rights. These need to be protected by law. One of those should be making up stories, fan fiction, using the same ideas and worlds and characters, with the understanding that nothing contained within is 'canon'.

  • Infinite Fretboard
    Infinite Fretboard 12 tuntia sitten +1

    It always cracks me up when I see "No Copyright Infringement Intended." It's like committing any crime. "I didn't intend to break into your house."

    • Mu Che
      Mu Che 4 tuntia sitten

      You forgot to describe the larger situation: 'I didn't intend to break into your house. A drunkard attacked me and threw me through your window into your house.'

  • Elephants Never Forget
    Elephants Never Forget 12 tuntia sitten

    Your Video is fundamentally flawed because a certain group of people can play music in the background and not get copy-write claimed and not have to pay anything or even list the protected in the description while another group of people can be claimed for creating content that vaguely resembles copy-written material.

  • JJFLIP101
    JJFLIP101 12 tuntia sitten

    This is *great* thank you for making it

  • Patrick Earthridge
    Patrick Earthridge 12 tuntia sitten +1

    Something ive thought about, is that most video game publishers actually LOVE it when youtubers play their games, because it's free advertisement. Untitled Goose Game would not have had the enormous sales they got, if it wasnt for youtubers. Most people wouldnt even take the time to learn how to play Escape from Tarkov, if it werent for youtubers showing how much fun it is once you get over the learning curve, and how to get over it faster. Probably 3/4 of the games ive bought on steam, I would have never bought if I hadnt seen youtubers playing them.